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	<title>Comments on: Evan Bayh Talks About the Most Expensive Breakfast Ever</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://frugalhoosiers.com/?p=5940&#038;cpage=1#comment-79299</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, it&#039;s obvious that you know talking points, but what are the facts?

CBO numbers tell a completely different story, and they are bi-partisan and respected by both parties. 

So, your &quot;hunch&quot; probably isn&#039;t something that we should base facts on.

this is a ten year piece of legislation.  After 10 years, if it continues, it has to be funded again, that is where social program problems come in.  After 10 years, a lack of political courage keeps politicians from wanting to face the truth and raise money to pay for popular programs.  That&#039;s exactly why we are in the trouble we are in now.  It was popular to cut taxes under GW Bush, but republicans in Congress didn&#039;t pay for those tax cuts, they just ran up debt to pay for them.  They tell when you raise a tax and yell further when there is a deficit, pretty stupid, isn&#039;t it?

But again, the fact is that this piece of legislation is completely funded and then some as it decreases the deficit over 10 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, it&#8217;s obvious that you know talking points, but what are the facts?</p>
<p>CBO numbers tell a completely different story, and they are bi-partisan and respected by both parties. </p>
<p>So, your &#8220;hunch&#8221; probably isn&#8217;t something that we should base facts on.</p>
<p>this is a ten year piece of legislation.  After 10 years, if it continues, it has to be funded again, that is where social program problems come in.  After 10 years, a lack of political courage keeps politicians from wanting to face the truth and raise money to pay for popular programs.  That&#8217;s exactly why we are in the trouble we are in now.  It was popular to cut taxes under GW Bush, but republicans in Congress didn&#8217;t pay for those tax cuts, they just ran up debt to pay for them.  They tell when you raise a tax and yell further when there is a deficit, pretty stupid, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>But again, the fact is that this piece of legislation is completely funded and then some as it decreases the deficit over 10 years.</p>
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		<title>By: FH</title>
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		<dc:creator>FH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you can find me a social welfare program that has actually met its cost projections we&#039;ll talk.  This one relies on accounting lies to make ends meet.  A classic example is provider reimbursement cuts under Medicare.  The bill relies on those savings to make sure it doesn&#039;t shatter its own cost savings projections in the next year alone. Meanwhile, Congress bails out Medicare providers on an annual basis and has for years.  Imagine if the legislature passed a budget everyone said was balanced, but carved out INDOT&#039;s budget.  It doesn&#039;t mean the books are balanced, it&#039;s a smoke and mirrors campaign to get the bill they want passed.  Democrats will figure the rest out later, just like with the stimulus bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you can find me a social welfare program that has actually met its cost projections we&#8217;ll talk.  This one relies on accounting lies to make ends meet.  A classic example is provider reimbursement cuts under Medicare.  The bill relies on those savings to make sure it doesn&#8217;t shatter its own cost savings projections in the next year alone. Meanwhile, Congress bails out Medicare providers on an annual basis and has for years.  Imagine if the legislature passed a budget everyone said was balanced, but carved out INDOT&#8217;s budget.  It doesn&#8217;t mean the books are balanced, it&#8217;s a smoke and mirrors campaign to get the bill they want passed.  Democrats will figure the rest out later, just like with the stimulus bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://frugalhoosiers.com/?p=5940&#038;cpage=1#comment-79284</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you have information that is better than what the CBO has?  I mean, I know that the truth isn&#039;t something you like to hear, but the &quot;You&#039;re wrong because it hurts my case&quot; argument doesn&#039;t carry much water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have information that is better than what the CBO has?  I mean, I know that the truth isn&#8217;t something you like to hear, but the &#8220;You&#8217;re wrong because it hurts my case&#8221; argument doesn&#8217;t carry much water.</p>
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		<title>By: FH</title>
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		<dc:creator>FH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s cute that you actually believe that.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://frugalhoosiers.com/?p=5940&#038;cpage=1#comment-79279</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your waffle story was a good one, if it were only true.  As it turns out, the healthcare waffle is being paid for now, the cost isn&#039;t being passed on to future generations like most of the policies and spending of the last administration.  In fact, at the end of the waffle sale, we&#039;ve left LESS of a bill for our future generations.

And to source this and also keep in the waffle theme, this info all comes from the non-partisan CBO, the Congressional Breakfast Office...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your waffle story was a good one, if it were only true.  As it turns out, the healthcare waffle is being paid for now, the cost isn&#8217;t being passed on to future generations like most of the policies and spending of the last administration.  In fact, at the end of the waffle sale, we&#8217;ve left LESS of a bill for our future generations.</p>
<p>And to source this and also keep in the waffle theme, this info all comes from the non-partisan CBO, the Congressional Breakfast Office&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shorty Long</title>
		<link>http://frugalhoosiers.com/?p=5940&#038;cpage=1#comment-79278</link>
		<dc:creator>Shorty Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was told by a college friend of Evan&#039;s that his college nickname was &quot;whimpy&quot;.  Sometimes that image never goes away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was told by a college friend of Evan&#8217;s that his college nickname was &#8220;whimpy&#8221;.  Sometimes that image never goes away.</p>
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